im thinking about getting the WARM 1176 clones for this exact reason, I stopped compressing overheads using an insert compressor recently, made a huge difference. squash it down a little, but not enough for the cymbals to fade out too "washy". Those are the 3 I've been happy with, do quite fancy the waves dbx 160 but not totally sure if I can justify it! Products, practices, and stories about the profession or hobby of recording, editing, and producing audio. Depends on the content. Use a fast to medium release and set the threshold fairly low. interesting how everyone views overheads differently! 4:1 medium attack / … if someone held a gun to my head, with the very very judicious mic placement I do, I could get by with only these two mics. I'll tend to compress the drum buss as a whole, plus kick/snare/toms individually. I like using an L2 or L1 first to catch the snare, and then a compressor with 2:1 ratio, medium attack, semi-fast release at like 1-3 dBs of GR. Conversely, if you want to add more body to, for example, your snare, set both attack and release times really fast (within a few milliseconds), with the threshold set so that it is compressing the snare's attack, but not its body. Drum group comp tends to be a 2500, or sometimes a G-series. i just never have, I compress the overheads more than most else on my drum tracks, using two MXL 993s for overheads. For more pop rock stuff or country I don't find myself using the overheads much in a mix so I just ride them back low and don't compress. Maybe even add a touch of tape to kill the peaks just a tad. For example, you might apply some light compression to the kick and snare. i actually don't compress the drum bus! Slow attack, fast release smashed on an 1176 at about 15% wet, just to bring in some sustain and vibe. Depends on the mix/vibe/client and what the desired sound is. I'm also recently moved into using the Fairchild 670 slammed on the drum group in parallel, as it's just fat as fuck. The use of Volume automation is important now when blending the two tracks, and the balance should probably change slightly throughout the song. so you're essentially parallel compressing the OH's, and automating the blend throughout the song? that being said, I totally agree about room mics, and should try this whole technique sometime! The IK 1176 is good for a bit of a dirtier sound, Boz +10db comp sounds cool too. BUT. Usually same as you; 4:1 or thereabouts, attack set to let some snare pop through and fast release to bring up the energy of the kit. Also quite like the IK buss compressor which seems a bit smoother - good for some meat on the snare hit and doesn't make the cymbals get as trashy as some alternatives. i've never used one or a clone. For the best results, apply several “coats,” or stages, of compression. Can't go as far with the UBK but it gets the job done most of the time. I find that whenever I use a spaced pair set up, I tend to use the same compressor --partly because I know it works / partly because I only have so many -- and I often use similar settings. I find that whenever I use a spaced pair set up, I tend to use the same compressor --partly because I know it works / partly because I only have so many -- and I often use similar settings. Although overheads can sound more aggressive with compression applied to them, I personally prefer the pin‑point accuracy … I'm mixing right now. i notice the attack / release settings on an 1176 are 1-7. are these milliseconds? compressing overheads - your thoughts / settings / ideas? Often it's only 2db at most, then the entire kit gets a bus compressor set however I see fit. I tend to view close mics as sound reinforcement. Mostly it's CRUSHED or nothing. I love slamming a mono overhead or if something is tracked live destroy it with something like a Distressor, if in the box I like the Kush UBK-1. Press J to jump to the feed. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Then apply a layer of compression across the drum group as a whole. I'll copy them and compress them then, and maybe treat them slightly different. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the audioengineering community. You gotta be really careful with those overheads, especially considering that you're gonna be compressing the drum-bus later on. I'm often using an FMR RNC (i have a small home studio with a small amount of outboard - 2 RNC's, 4 DBX 160's, 1 VLA Pro II, a DBX 166). Mostly ITB here, but I'll often compress them a little and leave the close mics uncompressed. Some people love to use the Overhead mics using the whole kit sound (including kicks, toms, snares) but some people prefer the OH mics to play the role of the high end spectrum (using a high pass filter and keeping only the hats and cymbals).If you choose to use the “high end” approach make sure to use a Limiter if there’s too much snare bleed, just to keep the snare from popping and annoying the mix.For the “high end appr… Start by applying a layer of compression on the individual drum tracks in your mix. 4:1 medium attack / fast release 3 db of gain reduction. what do you define as "slow" and "fast" on one? I'm mixing right now. for me, I tend to view the overheads as like 85% of my drum sound. i'll have to try it sometime! Essentially parallel compressing the drum-bus later on start by applying a layer compression. Mix/Vibe/Client and what the desired sound is or sometimes a G-series a dirtier sound, Boz comp. 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